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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.13 - 09 Sep 2003 - DevonScarfe)
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This area has been approved, domain tolnedra_harbourtower


 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.12 - 07 Sep 2003 - DevonScarfe)
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Nice map -- DevonScarfe - 08 Sep 2003


 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.11 - 04 Sep 2003 - PumaN)
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What does the + and the > mean on your map? - MarcMitchell


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The map so far is correct, with the exception that the 3rd floor is non-existant. There is also a single room basement. The wall will be connected to the 2nd story, with a rampart leading NW out of the stairs. This has been corrected in the map above. -- DevonScarfe - 04 Sep 2003

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The + and the > are symbols used for directions. Ask Puma for specific details about them.

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I added the third floor and changed exits on fourth floor to correspond with map. Also made a cute little map of what the towerplan could look and with a view from the riverside. -- PumaN - 04 Sep 2003

  • harbour_tower2.PNG:
    harbour_tower2.PNG
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The map so far is correct, with the exception that the 3rd floor is non-existant. There is also a single room basement. The wall will be connected to the 2nd story, with a rampart leading NW out of the stairs. This has been corrected in the map above. -- DevonScarfe - 04 Sep 2003

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.10 - 03 Sep 2003 - DevonScarfe)
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haq+sta+hao+

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haq+sta+hao+ (leads to the docks this way)

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war < >\

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wal war \< >\

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wal - this is a bridge or rampart that leads to the city's walls

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3rd floor:


wal+tow+wal
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sta - stair leading up/down, exit leading north to tow
tow - a hall or some such, doors east/west leading to wall, locked gate to warrior guild southeast
war - warrior guild, hatch leading down, dont need to make this area, seal it off

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3rd Floor:

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5th floor:

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What does the + and the > mean on your map? - MarcMitchell


The + and the > are symbols used for directions. Ask Puma for specific details about them.

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What does the + and the > mean on your map? - MarcMitchell?

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The map so far is correct, with the exception that the 3rd floor is non-existant. There is also a single room basement. The wall will be connected to the 2nd story, with a rampart leading NW out of the stairs. This has been corrected in the map above. -- DevonScarfe - 04 Sep 2003


 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.9 - 03 Sep 2003 - MarcMitchell)
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What does the + and the > mean on your map? - MarcMitchell?


 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.8 - 03 Sep 2003 - PumaN)

 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.7 - 28 Aug 2003 - PumaN)
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+ | + sta cos smi

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+ + + sta tow smi

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tow-ent hao+riv-

 
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tow+tow+tow+riv- + tow

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The tower as seen from above Note that this is NOT a layout of the first level. Red stairs are leading up.
Edit drawing 'HarbourTowerTop' (requires a Java enabled browser)

The tower as seen from the river - a side view
Edit drawing 'HarbourTowerFront' (requires a Java enabled browser)

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1st floor (the one on map, one level higher than that of the others though, thus stairs lead up to the tower entrances from riverside and courtyard) (is there also an external/secret entrance from outside the citywall?)

+> > ???+ent hao+

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ent - entrance hall, stairs lead up south hao - harbour masters office, stairs lead up to quarters ??? - basement of warrior guild, other rooms?

2nd floor < > war-war haq | < > war+sta

haq - harbour masters quarters, stairs lead down to office, ladder or stairs to roofhatch to balcony sta - platform in the stairs, entrance to warrior guild, stairs lead down south and up east war - warrior guild

3rd floor

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bal - balcony, connects to wall to north, ladder on west to top, hatch to harbourmasters quarters sta - balcony that overhangs the water (why this isnt a room in floors below), stairs lead down through west wall, balcony continues north war - warrior guild wal - wall

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+ ent +> haq+sta+hao+ + gua

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4th floor

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ent - entrance hall, remove iron gate to east sta - main hall with beginning of stairwell in middle, note that its going up in clockwise direction hao - harbourmasters office haq - harbourmasters quarters gua - guard chambers

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top - open air balcony on top of tower, ladder lead down on northeast side, hatch down to warrior guild?

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war < >war sta war \ / war

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sta - stairwell leading up/down only war - entered from the floor above, dont need to make this area

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ALTERNATIVE with the stairs being the SE balcony, twisting around and up to balconylevel

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3rd floor:

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3rd floor

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wal+tow+wal <|>war sta war \ / war

sta - stair leading up/down, exit leading north to tow tow - a hall or some such, doors east/west leading to wall, locked gate to warrior guild southeast war - warrior guild, hatch leading down, dont need to make this area, seal it off

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wal wal +> <+ bal-bal-bal + <| war-war sta

bal - balcony, connects to wall sta - stairs circle down west war - warrior guild wal - wall

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4th floor

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top /<+>top sta top \ / top

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top - the top balcony sta - end of stairwell, ladder leading up through hatch in roof, door leading out to top balcony

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top - open air balcony on top of tower

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-- PumaN - 22 Aug 2003

You are suggesting that there is no access to the habour master's section of the tower from inside?

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I thought we were placing the harbour master's abode in the tower as well, in which case it makes sense that there be connections. It also goes some way to using up the rooms on the ground floor.

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lig - lighthouse atop the roof of the stairwell, iron basket or similar to contain fire, hatch leading down

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.6 - 22 Aug 2003 - PumaN)
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ALTERNATIVE with the stairs being the SE balcony, twisting around and up to balconylevel

3rd floor

 
wal wal +> <+ bal-bal-bal + <| war-war sta

bal - balcony, connects to wall sta - stairs circle down west war - warrior guild wal - wall

4th floor

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top - open air balcony on top of tower


 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.5 - 22 Aug 2003 - FantoM)
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The tower as seen from above Note that this is NOT a layout of the first level. Red stairs are leading up.

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The tower as seen from the river - a side view

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.4 - 22 Aug 2003 - PumaN)
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tow-sta-tow

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tow-sta

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Edit drawing 'HarbourTowerTop' (requires a Java enabled browser)

Edit drawing 'HarbourTowerFront' (requires a Java enabled browser)

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+ > ???-ent hao+ | <|> ???-sta-???

ent - entrance hall tow - tower interior sta - stairs hao - harbour masters office

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ent - entrance hall, stairs lead up south hao - harbour masters office, stairs lead up to quarters ??? - basement of warrior guild, other rooms?

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| |> war-sta-???

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haq - harbour masters quarters sta - stairs

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haq - harbour masters quarters, stairs lead down to office, ladder or stairs to roofhatch to balcony sta - platform in the stairs, entrance to warrior guild, stairs lead down south and up east

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bal - balcony, connects to wall sta - stairs

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bal - balcony, connects to wall to north, ladder on west to top, hatch to harbourmasters quarters sta - balcony that overhangs the water (why this isnt a room in floors below), stairs lead down through west wall, balcony continues north

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top - open air balcony on top of tower

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top - open air balcony on top of tower, ladder lead down on northeast side, hatch down to warrior guild?

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.3 - 22 Aug 2003 - FantoM)
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-- PumaN - 22 Aug 2003

You are suggesting that there is no access to the habour master's section of the tower from inside?

I thought we were placing the harbour master's abode in the tower as well, in which case it makes sense that there be connections. It also goes some way to using up the rooms on the ground floor.

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.2 - 22 Aug 2003 - PumaN)
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lor-lor-lor-lor-
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sta-con-coe
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sta cos smi
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cam - camsort
lor - lorel
riv - riverside
tow - tower (detailed below)

1st floor (the one on map, one level higher than that of the others though, thus stairs lead up to the tower entrances from riverside and courtyard) (is there also an external/secret entrance from outside the citywall?)

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???-sta-???

ent - entrance hall
tow - tower interior
sta - stairs
hao - harbour masters office

2nd floor
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war-war haq
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war-sta-???

haq - harbour masters quarters
sta - stairs
war - warrior guild

3rd floor

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war-sta+bal

bal - balcony, connects to wall
sta - stairs
war - warrior guild
wal - wall

4th floor

top-top
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top-top

top - open air balcony on top of tower

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 <<O>>  Difference Topic HarbourTower (r1.1 - 22 Aug 2003 - FantoM)
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%META:TOPICINFO{author="FantoM" date="1061517240" format="1.0" version="1.1"}% %META:TOPICPARENT{name="SmallAreas"}% The design for the Harbour Tower in the south west corner of Tolnedra.

Setting: Think we could remake the southwestern most part of town into a hill with a tower on top, the town main defense before the castle was founded...now the warrior guild could be housed inside...

This has been expanded to house the Harbour master in the first floor with a smithy and a stables outside the tower and contained within a small wall that once cirled the tower.

The warrior guild uses some space in the tower, the smithy, stables and some area outside the town walls for parade grounds/training areas.

Suggested map for the courtyard and how it links to the existing roads:

Edit drawing 'HarbourTowerSurrounds' (requires a Java enabled browser)

-- FantoM - 22 Aug 2003 %META:FILEATTACHMENT{name="HarbourTowerSurrounds.draw" attr="" comment="TWikiDraw draw file" date="1061517633" path="/twiki/pub/Design/HarbourTower/HarbourTowerSurrounds.draw" size="4832" user="FantoM" version="1.1"}% %META:FILEATTACHMENT{name="HarbourTowerSurrounds.gif" attr="" comment="TWikiDraw GIF file" date="1061517634" path="/twiki/pub/Design/HarbourTower/HarbourTowerSurrounds.gif" size="3319" user="FantoM" version="1.1"}%


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